In this week’s Bitcoin Bottom Line episode, Co-hosts Steven McClurg and C.J. Wilson are joined by guest Nick Hansen, CEO of Luxor, and Valkyrie’s Head of Research Josh Olszewicz.

Luxor is one of the top 10 bitcoin mining pools in the world. They have a Hash Rate Index, and through that they are aiming to provide great data about the mining ecosystem. In addition, they have an ASIC Index, and are just about to launch Energy Markets which tracks the value of energy over time, which they view as very integral to bitcoin mining. In addition to a suite of other products.

Wilson says, “Hash rate is worldwide, machines are getting better every couple of years, and now there are new innovations because people like Luxor are getting involved with the firmware side” He goes on to ask, “How do you see growth in bitcoin mining in the next couple of years?

Hansen explains that he doesn’t see the consistent “all time highs” stopping, but the only thing that could stop that trend is international regulation and how the new hash rates in texas manages during the summer.

The conversation naturally leads to one on energy, and Hansen explains how “Bitcoin mining is just an energy problem at the end of the day.” The group discusses immersion cooling on massive scales, some over 100 megawatts. For reference, Hansen explains that a single megawatt is probably one’s entire neighborhood.

Hansen goes on to explain, “Whether we like it as bitcoiners or not, ESG is here to stay. If you can lean into that in effective ways, you’re going to make it way easier for yourself going forward to raise capital and tell the right story to the market.

People who are leaning into ESG are going to be really effective about continuing to be on the forefront of this industry.”

The group discusses sustainable energy, and Hansen defines sustainable as “lasting one thousand generations through solar, wind, and hydro”. He continues, “This brings us to a new energy future where energy is effectively free. The best part about bitcoin is that it incentivizes that and provides you the economic value to learn how to do those things.”

Wilson explains how we as consumers struggle with sustainability since we love packaging. “The difference between bitcoin and many other items is that Bitcoin requires no packaging at all. Effectively, we’ve taken old shipping containers, a torch, and some chords and we’ve turned them into these multi-million dollar industries.”

They go on to discuss firmware, hash rate hedging, out-of-the-box carbon capture techniques, and more.

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